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Old November 1st, 2009, 9:39 pm
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Re: Rose Weasley: Gryffindor or Ravenclaw?

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It was bad enough that the original seven Weasleys were in Gryffindor; it would be ridiculous, IMO, to have all of the NextGen Weasleys to be in Gryffindor, as well.
"Bad"? Wow...


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Old November 2nd, 2009, 1:17 am
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I think it would be better for all Weasley's to be sorted into the same House, imagine if you had a sister or brother and you were sorted into different houses. It would be pretty annoying to have to compete her in House points and Quidditch games...
My brother and I when to different high schools and competed directly against each other, no big deal. Yes, they might compete against each other on the quiditch pitch or in classes, but afterwards your siblings, no big deal. In fact, learning how to be siblings in spite of your differences and learning from each other seems like a good thing.

Basically, I think there are some valuble lessons to be learned. In fact, I think the bigger tragedy is to be around people only like yourself and only being able to function in that limited group of people.

The only problem is I see if you have a parent who is a fanatic, either for their alma matter or for ideological reasons that clash, like Sirius' Mum. But fanatics tend to be the exception rather then the rule in RL and I suspect the same goes for the Potterverse. I simply don't see most parents being like that and the only other example, the Patil twins parents didn't seem to be like that.

Seriously, do you really think Hermione or Ron or Harry or even Ginny would stop loving their kid because they were in Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff (I admit, Slytherin might be trickier)? Do you think they would not be happy for them if they won House Cup or the Quiditch Cup?

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"Bad"? Wow...
I'm interpreting Krum's girl, but I think the first part of bad is bad=Unrealistic. Most siblings groups I knew growing up with three or more siblings would have at least one end up in different houses if they were sorted. Many pairs of siblings would be in different houses.

As I write this I know some people will disagree because different lifestyles and community standards may result in more consistancy then what I experinced. But seven kids all being simular enough RL to end up in the same house just seems like just seems like a improbably high crapshoot. A majority, probably? A plurality, certainly? because as Hagrid said, houses do tend to run in families. Seven kids all in the same house though just seems like a real longshot.

All the cousins being in the same house seems like a really long longshot.

The second part of 'bad' is the Gryffindor-centric nature of the books. I think there is perception from many fans that Gryffindors are portrayed as just a little better then everyone else. I think there are many people who were disappointed that there weren't a few more cool Ravs and Huffs and even Slytherins. Quite frankly, I think that's a valid viewpoint.

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Old November 2nd, 2009, 6:01 am
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Re: Rose Weasley: Gryffindor or Ravenclaw?

well remember that Xenophilius (sp?) Lovegood said that Hermione was not unintelligent but she was "narrow-minded" this is the reason why Hermione's not in Ravenclaw. No Doubt, she is VERY intelligent. But her kind of intelligence is book smart, Luna's in Ravenclaw and she's not Book smart :P (Quibbler smart yeah :P) I sorta doubt she can answer the Common room portrait for Ravenclaw...because her mind is full of FACTS. I seriously doubt she could answer "The Circle does not have a beginning" she could answer like "I read it at the blah blah blah that a phoenix is..." IMO. don't throw rocks at me

I'm pretty sure Rose is like her mom, so I'd say Gryffindor for the reason above and she's a Weasley

But it would be very interesting if she's in Ravenclaw/Slytherin


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Old November 2nd, 2009, 1:00 pm
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Re: Rose Weasley: Gryffindor or Ravenclaw?

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I'm interpreting Krum's girl, but I think the first part of bad is bad=Unrealistic. Most siblings groups I knew growing up with three or more siblings would have at least one end up in different houses if they were sorted. Many pairs of siblings would be in different houses.

As I write this I know some people will disagree because different lifestyles and community standards may result in more consistancy then what I experinced. But seven kids all being simular enough RL to end up in the same house just seems like just seems like a improbably high crapshoot. A majority, probably? A plurality, certainly? because as Hagrid said, houses do tend to run in families. Seven kids all in the same house though just seems like a real longshot.

All the cousins being in the same house seems like a really long long shot.

The second part of 'bad' is the Gryffindor-centric nature of the books. I think there is perception from many fans that Gryffindors are portrayed as just a little better then everyone else. I think there are many people who were disappointed that there weren't a few more cool Ravs and Huffs and even Slytherins. Quite frankly, I think that's a valid viewpoint.

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Re: Rose Weasley: Gryffindor or Ravenclaw?

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Seriously, do you really think Hermione or Ron or Harry or even Ginny would stop loving their kid because they were in Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff (I admit, Slytherin might be trickier)? Do you think they would not be happy for them if they won House Cup or the Quiditch Cup?
Seriously, did I ever said somethign like that?

I just stated my opinion. Sometimes when you read a book, you can understand what kind of personality has the one who wrote it. And the personality of Rowling makes me think that she'd never make the Weasley's go into different Houses. Also, imagine of them want to go on Gryffindor, feeling proud that their parents and even Harry Potter passed through it their children and teenage years, and they suddenly are sorted in Hufflepuff, which is for the ones who haven't got a certain talent.(JK said that Hufflepuff is for those people BTW dont get me wrong.)Or in Ravenclaw, who no one that they know wasn't sorted there. I just can imagine their dissapointment when being sorted to a House they don't didn't expect to be sorted.


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Old November 2nd, 2009, 10:28 pm
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Re: Rose Weasley: Gryffindor or Ravenclaw?

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Seriously, did I ever said somethign like that?

I just stated my opinion. Sometimes when you read a book, you can understand what kind of personality has the one who wrote it. And the personality of Rowling makes me think that she'd never make the Weasley's go into different Houses. Also, imagine of them want to go on Gryffindor, feeling proud that their parents and even Harry Potter passed through it their children and teenage years, and they suddenly are sorted in Hufflepuff, which is for the ones who haven't got a certain talent.(JK said that Hufflepuff is for those people BTW dont get me wrong.)Or in Ravenclaw, who no one that they know wasn't sorted there. I just can imagine their dissapointment when being sorted to a House they don't didn't expect to be sorted.
Who says that they'd be dissapointed?

Ron, Hermione, Harry, and Ginny would probably tell their kids that each House has something special to share, and they should be proud to be in that House, whatever it was.

But, for arguments' sake, let's say that the WERE dissapointed that they didn't get sorted into Gryffindor. They might be at first, but their parents would never hold that against them, and once they found friends in that House, and got used to the atmosphere, I'm sure that they would get over their dissapointment. Just because they weren't in Gryffindor doesn't mean that their life is automatically ruined.


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Old November 2nd, 2009, 11:49 pm
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Re: Rose Weasley: Gryffindor or Ravenclaw?

Sometimes I think people want a few of the Weasley grandchildren in non-Gryffindor houses just for the sake of being different, and not for any substantial evidence. I'm not saying certain people haven't brought up plausible evidence before, I'm just saying that there are others who only, say, put Hugo in Ravenclaw so he won't be in Gryffindor.


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Re: Rose Weasley: Gryffindor or Ravenclaw?

Family members should go into the same house. It's pretty much British house tradition.


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Old November 3rd, 2009, 1:10 pm
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Family members should go into the same house. It's pretty much British house tradition.
Just because they should doesn't mean that they will- there are lots of examples- Sirius, The Patil Twins- I think that it's fairly common to have family members that aren't in the same House as you.


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Who says that they'd be dissapointed?

Ron, Hermione, Harry, and Ginny would probably tell their kids that each House has something special to share, and they should be proud to be in that House, whatever it was.

But, for arguments' sake, let's say that the WERE dissapointed that they didn't get sorted into Gryffindor. They might be at first, but their parents would never hold that against them, and once they found friends in that House, and got used to the atmosphere, I'm sure that they would get over their dissapointment. Just because they weren't in Gryffindor doesn't mean that their life is automatically ruined.
OMG people listen to me carefully when I'm posting. Just kidding! But please pay attention to what I post. I never said that if they be sorted in Gryffindor they'll life will be ruined, that their parents won't love them or anything like that. I just stated my opinion, which is that if my dad and mum and all of their friends were in a House, I would like to be sorted there, just for the sake that I have something to share with my family. Of course their parents won't be dissapointed if they'd be sorted in Hufflepuff, but they would get an additional happiness if they were sorted in the same House they were sorted in their childhood. Personally, if my mother was sorted in Gryffindor, I would like to be sorted there too, I would just want, I don't know why. It would be great that I have to share something with my mother from her own childhood, if that had to be a Hogwarts House.


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Just because they should doesn't mean that they will- there are lots of examples- Sirius, The Patil Twins- I think that it's fairly common to have family members that aren't in the same House as you.
It's more common to have family members that are in the same house.

When Rowling seperated family members, it never made much logical sense.


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Re: Rose Weasley: Gryffindor or Ravenclaw?

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It's more common to have family members that are in the same house.

When Rowling seperated family members, it never made much logical sense.
IMO Sirius being seperated from the rest of the Black family made a fair amount of sense. Students are sorted according to their own attributes and characteristics, the coincidence is that some of the traits they are sorted according to run in families. The Weasley's were all, imo, very brave (whether this was for genetic or environmental reason doesn't really matter) and so for this reason most ended up in Gryffindor so it makes sense that Rose would have these similar traits and be sorted there too. Then again, we don't know her and it may be the case that she doesn't have those traits and may end up being sorted elsewhere. I think that's what people mean when the suggest she'll end up in Gryffindor because she's a Weasley.


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The problem is that we know pretty much nothing about the "HP Kids" to make a judgement on what traits they may have. So family connections are really all we have to go on.


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Re: Rose Weasley: Gryffindor or Ravenclaw?

I agree. Judging from the evident hints to Rose's intellectual ability, I'll be more leaning towards the Ravenclaw side.


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